Hi Marcos,

You definitely should be able to add the extra sugar as I have made Marie type doughs with that much sugar plus an addition of 3Kgs sugar syrup. How much water are you adding ? perhaps the water level is too high, 

Hello, Mr. Hughes.

I did some experiments on many recipes, including 12 kilos of water, and 10 kilos of water. 

The other one added 8 kilos of water, but it didn't work out.

After adding excess sugar, it becomes incoherent and takes a long time until it becomes cohesive and its strength remains untheus.

I want to add 13 kilos of granulated sugar.

And add 1 kilo of glucose to the recipe. 

Best regards 

Hi Khaled,

Both levels of water seem too high for a commercial Marie recipe. I would recommend 8.5 Kgs of water with between 8 and 9 Kgs of fat, if you are using Butter or Margarine you need to adjust the levels accordingly to compensate for the water Mix the fat, sugar, water together before adding the flour

Regards

Andrew

Hello Mr. Huges

Tomorrow I'm going to do this amount of water and oil.

I was adding 7 kilos of shorting oil.

Should the rest of the sodium bicarbonate and ammonium bicarbonate be added with water and oil?

Does the dough hold together and become elastic in a short time

Best regards 

Hi Khaled, the Ammonia and sodium bicarbonate can be added in the 1st stage if you are adding SMS add it after the dough has formed. The dough will be initially quite dry and not become cohesive until it has been mixing for a while. Typical mixing time on a high sheer mixer is 12 to 14 minutes if you add too much water 5he dough will be too soft after mixing 

Hello, Mr. Hughes

Yes, I'm adding sms to the recipe.

But can I reduce the mixing time to 5 or 10 minutes? 

Thank you very much

Hello Mr. Huges

Today I put 9 kilos of oil and added 8.5 kilos of water.

But it didn't work.

I took half an hour and stayed incoherent.

Greetings 

Hi Khaled,

The water absorption of your flour may be high try increasing the water level slowly until the dough starts to form. Once the dough becomes cohesive the temperature will rise. Mix until it achieves a temperature of 40 centigrade if it’s stretchable without shrinking then that should be sufficient mixing

Hello Mr. Huges

Well, now I'm going to add water.

This problem only confronts me when i increase the amount of sugar. 

I use sugar granules in the recipe.

Thank you very much 

Dear Mr khalad,

Pl do try this and let me know.  

Wheat flour 50kgs, Sugar 28kgs, palm oil 7.5 to 8kgs and water 11kgs.  Other ingredients as per you.  

If you are using granulated sugar (normally we use Lawn sugar) please put the sugar in the mix and add water and mix it.  After ensuring that sugar and water is mixed then start creaming and after creaming add wheat flour.  After wheat flour and cream mixed for one minute please add sms and give 5 to 6mts mixing time.  If you give mixing time more than required it will become soft and very much extensible.  Just try and let me know.